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Native NYer living in Israel warns Jews to ‘get the hell out’ of US now as antisemitic crimes continue to soar: ‘You are no longer safe’
By and Doree Lewak Published June 30, 2024,
In command Trump and stumbling Biden face off in first presidential debate
Below Video also shows Rishi Sunak speaking out after a Reform UK supporter was filmed making racist comments about him - with party leader Nigel Farage forced on to the defensive.
Meanwhile, Sir Keir Starmer has distanced himself from a Labour colleague's previous criticism of Donald Trump.
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Although he stretched the truth to breaking point, Donald Trump still had the edge over President Joe Biden, who failed to land any blows on the former president.
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Native NYer living in Israel warns Jews to ‘get the hell out’ of US now as antisemitic crimes continue to soar: ‘You are no longer safe’
By and Doree Lewak Published June 30, 2024,
Native NYer tells Jews to 'get the hell out' of US now as antisemitic crimes soar (nypost.com)
A former New Yorker whose brother was stabbed to death by a Palestinian in the West Bank is begging his Jewish brethren to “wake up” and ditch the land of bagels and lox in favor of the land of milk and honey.
Queens native Hillel Fuld, who moved to Israel at 15, believes Israel is the safest place for Jews — as antisemitic crimes soar in the US.
“Jews, get out now. Get the hell out while you still can,” Fuld warned in an interview with The Post.
Queens native Hillel Fuld, who moved to Israel at 15, believes Israel is the safest place for Jews — as antisemitic crimes soar in the US.
“Nobody has to lecture me on terrorism — I know it,” Fuld said.REUTERS
Ari Fuld was fatally stabbed by a Palestinian.
Fuld is pleading with Jews to “read the writing on the wall.”
The 45-year-old married father of five who lives between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem called the recent spate of violent attacks in his native New York and around the US “heartbreaking” — and labeled last week’s Los Angeles attack at an anti-Israel rally a “legitimate modern-day pogrom.”
“Read the writing on the wall,” pleaded Fuld, whose older brother, Ari, 45, was stabbed to death near his home in Efrat by a 17-year-old Palestinian.
“Nobody has to lecture me on terrorism — I know it.”
He added: “You are no longer safe on the streets of New York or Los Angeles.”
The latest statistics are grim — as antisemitic hate crimes are up 45% in 2024, according to NYPD data obtained by The Post in April — and the emboldened nature of recent attacks, many captured on shocking video, raise more alarm.
Earlier this month, 24-year-old Anas Saleh commandeered a packed rush-hour subway train, demanding that “Zionists” identify themselves, cops said. Survivors of the Oct. 7 attack were trapped inside a downtown Manhattan memorial and having panic attacks in lockdown as a mob outside raged, chanting, “Long live the intifada,” a known call to violence.
“This is literally 1930s Europe,” he said of the shocking subway incident. “It’s scary this could happen in New York.”
The tech guru with a massive social media presence claimed he’s not being “alarmist” when he draws parallels between what he hears about in his native New York City with the dangerous climate his Auschwitz survivor grandmother experienced as a youngster.
Those whose strategy is wait-and-see are in “denial,” said Fuld, noting the German Jews of the 1930s.
“We always say, ‘But we’re the most German people,’” he said, invoking a common refrain about the German Jews who didn’t think the Holocaust – and systematic slaughter of six million Jews – could befall humanity.
Israel Minister of Diaspora Affairs, Amichai Chikli, told The Post that “obviously” Jews are safer in Israel than the US, especially after multiple US university presidents failed to condemn and control raging antisemitism on their campuses. American Jews must start to consider an exit strategy, he stressed.
“One of the options — and it’s an important option — is a return to the Jewish homeland,” Chikli said.
More than 700 Jews around the world moved to Israel, or made “aliyah,” since the Oct. 7 attacks, according to an Israeli nonprofit.
Fuld insisted he’s not meshugana, conceding that Israel has its problems, especially dealing with the massive security failure on Oct. 7. But the techie stressed that the population — and those charged to protect it, namely the IDF — will always have your back.
In Israel, he said, they know who the enemy is, whereas in New York, they’re masked — literally — referring to the face coverings so many antisemites have hidden behind.
Fuld admitted to hiding his yarmulke with a hat while visiting Times Square recently with his wife and five kids, ages 13 to 19.
“It’s just not worth the risk,” he said. “And that’s tragic.”
Fuld admitted that American Jews pushed back against his haunting harbingers, saying “the world is too civilized to let it happen again,” that “America is not Germany” and that “if we run away, they win,” he recalled of the skepticism.
But his assessment of the escalating chaos isn’t brimming with optimism.
“We know what’s about to happen – and it’s going to happen fast. The genie is out of the bottle,” he said. “Antisemitism will only get worse and worse. Open a history book.
“I would love nothing more than to be wrong,” he said somberly. “But I don’t think I am.”
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Netanyahu says ‘no change’ in Israel’s position on Gaza cease-fire proposal
JERUSALEM
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu claimed Sunday that there is no change in his government’s stance on a Gaza cease-fire proposal backed by US President Joe Biden.
Speaking at a government meeting, Netanyahu said he will hold an assessment at the army’s Southern Command on progress in the Gaza war.
"We are committed to fighting until we achieve all of our objectives: Eliminating Hamas, returning all of our hostages, ensuring that Gaza never again constitutes a threat to Israel and returning our residents securely to their homes in the south and the north,” he added.
“Regarding the sacred mission of freeing our hostages: There is no change in Israel's position on the release outline that President Biden has welcomed," Netanyahu said.
Hamas insists on a permanent cease-fire as a condition for any potential hostage exchange deal, which the Israeli government opposes.
On May 31, Biden said Israel presented a three-phase deal that would end hostilities in Gaza and secure the release of hostages held in the coastal enclave. The plan includes a cease-fire, a hostage-prisoner exchange and the reconstruction of the Palestinian enclave.
Last week, Netanyahu provoked outrage among the hostages’ families when he said that he was open to a partial agreement to release some captives.
Flouting a UN Security Council resolution demanding an immediate cease-fire, Israel has faced international condemnation amid its continued brutal offensive on Gaza since an Oct. 7, 2023 attack by Hamas.
Nearly 37,900 Palestinians have since been killed, mostly women and children, and nearly 87,000 others injured, according to local health authorities.
Over eight months into the Israeli war, vast tracts of Gaza lie in ruins amid a crippling blockade of food, clean water and medicine.
Israel stands accused of genocide at the International Court of Justice, whose latest ruling ordered Tel Aviv to immediately halt its military operation in the southern city of Rafah, where over a million Palestinians had sought refuge from the war before it was invaded on May 6.
Biden, Trump go to bat for Israel in 1st US presidential debate
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Israel’s war on Gaza was a central feature of the first US presidential debate, with both current President Joe Biden and his predecessor Donald Trump trying to outdo the other in positioning themselves as a champion of Israeli interests.
The incumbent and his challenger on Thursday night traded barbs and bragged of all the ways they have helped Israel, along with pledges of continued support and remarks that drew outrage for their racist connotations.
Biden inaccurately claimed that all parties except Hamas had agreed to the ceasefire proposal he announced on May 31 and had secured a comprehensive agreement for the three-part ceasefire plan, including from Israel.
"Everyone from the United Nations Security Council, straight through the G7 to the Israelis and (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu have endorsed the plan that I put forward," said Biden.
"The only one who wants the war to continue is Hamas," he said.
Hamas has been "greatly weakened" by Israel, said the president, adding that they "should be eliminated."
In the debate, Biden said: "The only one who doesn't want to end the war is Hamas."
He said that the only thing he withheld from Israel were 2,000-pound (907-kg) bombs capable of causing significant civilian damage, stressing that Israel is receiving "all the weapons they need" from the US.
On US assistance to Israel during Iran's air attacks this April, Biden stressed that he "organized the world against Iran's attack" and emphasized that they "saved" Israel without the need for Israeli fatalities.
Trump’s ‘bad Palestinian’
For his part of Thursday night's showdown, Trump criticized Biden's stance, calling him a so-called "bad Palestinian" and accusing him of preventing Israel from "finishing the job" against Hamas.
Trump's use of the phrase "bad Palestinian" to criticize Biden sparked anger on social media. Some users labeled the comment racist, while others called it an insult.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations, the largest US Muslim civil rights group, said on X that Trump used the word Palestinian as a "racist insult."
The former president added: "As far as Israel and Hamas, Israel's the one that wants to go. He (Biden) said the only one who wants to keep going is Hamas. Actually, Israel is the one, and you should let 'em go and let 'em finish the job.”
"He doesn't want to do it. He's become like a Palestinian, but they don't like him because he's a very bad Palestinian. He's a weak one."
When asked if he would support an independent Palestinian state, Trump hesitated, saying: "I'd have to see."
The US has been roundly globally criticized for supporting Israel’s onslaught on Gaza, with both words and weapons, even as the death toll rose into the tens of thousands, leading to formal charges of genocide, and the UN and humanitarian groups decried an Israeli blockade throwing millions of Palestinians into famine.
Israel, flouting a UN Security Council resolution demanding an immediate cease-fire, has faced international condemnation amid its continued brutal offensive on Gaza since an Oct. 7, 2023 attack by the Palestinian group Hamas.
More than 37,700 Palestinians have since been killed in Gaza, most of them women and children, and over 86,400 others injured, according to local health authorities.
Over eight months into the Israeli war, vast tracts of Gaza lie in ruins amid a crippling blockade of food, clean water, and medicine.
Israel stands accused of genocide at the International Court of Justice, whose latest ruling ordered it to immediately halt its military operation in the southern city of Rafah, where over a million Palestinians had sought refuge from the war before it was invaded on May 6.
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US president condemns Iowa abortion ban
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US President Joe Biden on Friday condemned Iowa Supreme Court's ruling on six-week abortion ban, saying it puts women’s health "in jeopardy."
"Today, the Iowa Supreme Court ruled that the state’s extreme and dangerous abortion ban can go into effect. Iowa is the twenty-second state with an abortion ban, imposed by Republican elected officials, that puts women’s health and lives in jeopardy.
"This should never happen in America," Biden said in a statement.
The 4-to-3 ruling overturned a lower court’s temporary block on the state’s six-week ban on abortion, saying that the ban is legal.
"Vice President Harris and I believe that women in every state must have the right to make deeply personal decisions about their health," Biden said, calling on Congress to restore the protections of Roe v. Wade in federal law -- the landmark ruling that enshrined federal abortion protections across the country for half a century.
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In command Trump and stumbling Biden face off in first presidential debate
Although he stretched the truth to breaking point, Donald Trump still had the edge over President Joe Biden, who failed to land any blows on the former president.
Joe Biden and Donald Trump during the presidential debate
President Joe Biden and Donald Trump have faced off in the first debate in the 2024 presidential election campaign.
The format, with each taking turns to speak with their opponent's microphone muted, was designed to prevent a shouting match with both candidates talking over each other.
In truth, it served to highlight the differences in the performances of the two men.
Mr Trump appeared confident, on the front foot and in command, even if his claims sometimes stretched the truth to breaking point.
Mr Biden on the other hand was hesitant, sometimes stumbling over his words and at one point appearing to freeze, less than 10 minutes into the debate.
The only time Mr Biden appeared to land any blows was when he lost his temper and attacked Mr Trump and his "alley cat morals".
After the debate, political figures and commentators broached the idea of replacing Mr Biden as the Democratic presidential nominee.
It's "time to talk about an open convention and a new Democratic nominee," one Democratic lawmaker told Sky's US partner network NBC News.
Joe Biden appears to stall during debate
It's "time to talk about an open convention and a new Democratic nominee," one Democratic lawmaker told Sky's US partner network NBC News.
Another said: "This was like a champion boxer who gets in the ring past his prime and needs his corner to throw in the towel." The lawmaker also added that he meant Mr Biden should exit the race.
Another said: "This was like a champion boxer who gets in the ring past his prime and needs his corner to throw in the towel." The lawmaker also added that he meant Mr Biden should exit the race.
David Axelrod, a senior aide to former President Barack Obama, told CNN: "There is a sense of shock at how he came out at the beginning of this debate. How his voice sounded. He seemed a little disoriented.
"There are going to be discussions about whether he should continue. Only he can decide if he's going to continue," Mr Axelrod added.
Changing candidates at this stage of the campaign would be difficult and unprecedented. Unless Mr Biden chooses to step aside, delegates at the Democratic National Convention would have to revolt - despite being elected on their pledge to nominate the president.
The debate mediators divided the time in to subjects, beginning with the economy.
Mr Trump claimed under his presidency the US had the "greatest economy in the history of our country", only stalling when COVID struck.
Mr Biden hit back saying he inherited "an economy that was in freefall".
"The pandemic was so badly handled... the economy collapsed," he said.
"What we had to do is try to put things back together again. That's exactly what we began to do."
For much of the debate, Mr Trump was forthright while President Biden, his voice hoarse, came across as hesitant.
On the issue of abortion, Mr Biden appeared to have slightly more success, describing the decision to overturn Roe v Wade as horrendous.
"It's been a terrible thing what you've done," he told Trump.
For his part the former president said it was right for individual states to decide policy on abortion.
Next came immigration, previously something of a "trump" card for the former president.
Mr Biden was asked about his record.
"The Border Patrol endorsed me, endorsed my position," he said, before turning on Mr Trump.
"He was separating babies from mothers, putting them in cages, making sure that the families are separated [when he was in office]," he said.
Mr Trump responded: "We have the largest number of terrorists coming into our country right now."
"That's simply not true," Mr Biden said.
"There's no data to support what he said, once again, he's exaggerating. He's lying."
Asked what he will do to address the crisis, Mr Trump said "we have to get them out" but didn't specify any particular policy.
On Ukraine, Mr Trump was the first to answer, taking aim at Mr Biden's handling of it.
"As far as Russia and Ukraine, if we have a real president, a president that was respected by Putin, then he would have never invaded Ukraine."
Asked what he thought of Mr Trump's comments, Mr Biden replied: "I've never heard so much malarkey in my whole life."
He warned that if Mr Putin wins the war there is a risk he will go after other countries like Poland and Belarus. However, the strength of his argument was undermined by appearing to confuse Mr Trump and President Putin at one point.
The Middle East was next, with Mr Biden saying the US had "saved Israel", referencing the ongoing support from his government and the organised defence against a massive Iranian air attack.
Trump however slammed his opponent's handling of the crisis in the Middle East.
"He's become like a Palestinian, but they don't like him because he's a very bad Palestinian. He's a weak one," he said.
Next came topics where Mr Biden genuinely had the chance to land some heavy blows: the Capitol riots and the litany of criminal cases facing Trump.
The odd punch did hit home but - as throughout the debate - Mr Trump appeared in charge, confident in his own version of the truth. He repeatedly said he did nothing wrong, claiming any action he encouraged was to be carried out "peacefully and patriotically".
Mr Biden retorted: "He encouraged his folks up on Capitol Hill.
"Now he says if he loses again, [he's] such a whiner, it is basically [going to be] a bloodbath."
The only time Mr Trump appeared even slightly uncomfortable was when Mr Biden pointed out his recent criminal charges and called him a convicted felon.
"The only person on this stage that is a convicted felon is this man I'm looking at right now," he said of the former president.
In one of his most forceful moments of the debate, Mr Biden referred to Mr Trump's alleged sexual relationship with porn star Stormy Daniels, telling him: "You have the morals of an alley cat."
The debate continued, covering racial inequality, climate change and the US opioid crisis, but in truth the optics varied little.
People at a watch party for the first presidential debate at Union Pub on Capitol Hill in Washington.
Mr Trump - a chin-jutting picture of arrogance and self belief. Mr Biden - often seeming to feel his age, only coming into his own when he lost his temper over what he clearly regarded as his opponent's lies.
The debate revealed little of substance with regard to policy, with podcaster and analyst Tim Miller tweeting that it was "the worst debate in history".
EARLY DEBATE WAS A GAMBLE JOE BIDEN MAY REGRET
This was an extraordinary evening.
Joe Biden's debate performance was among the worst by any presidential candidate in history, if not the worst.
It was an "unmitigated disaster", "a meltdown", and "a slow-motion car crash".
Those are not descriptors from Republican voters, they are the words of Democrats. Even former aides of President Biden admit it was a really horrible night for him.
I was literally gripping the sides of my seat at times it was so excruciating. Team Biden hoped to see State of the Union Joe on the stage, when the President gave a slick, impassioned and well-delivered speech.
Right from the start it became apparent this would be an entirely different version of him. His voice was hoarse, he was stumbling and there were long pregnant pauses.
I was struck by how much older he looked than the last time he was in the same room as Donald Trump four years ago.
"We finally beat Medicare," he said with a misspeak that is sure to go viral, a sentence that does not make sense and was pounced upon by Donald Trump.
Biden was asked by the debate moderator about abortion, one of the strongest issues for the Democratic Party, a subject where he has the opportunity to really nail Donald Trump to the wall.
He somehow managed to ramble his way off-topic to talk about immigration, one of his biggest vulnerabilities. It was an open goal missed in spectacular style.
The debate descended near the end into a row between two senior citizens about who had a lower golf handicap and who could drive the ball further.
It summed up the quality, or lack thereof, of this debate. It might have been funny if it weren't so depressing for American voters.
It is hard to believe that President Biden fought for this debate at this time, the earliest there has ever been.
His team calculated that, given he was trailing Trump in the polls and there were growing questions about his age and vitality, it was a risk worth taking.
But it was a huge gamble, given that this format is so exposing on the national stage. It could well be a gamble they come to regret.
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Here’s a recap of the first US presidential debate
Our live coverage is soon coming to a close. Here is a look at what we learned after the first presidential debate of the 2024 US election cycle:
- President Joe Biden’s performance has sparked concern among Democrats, after he was seen to flounder while articulating points about immigration, abortion and other key issues.
- Former President Donald Trump, meanwhile, repeated falsehoods, whipping up concern that immigration would lead to higher crime rates and accusing Democrats of “ripping” babies from the womb.
- Trump also deflected when asked if he would honour the results of the 2024 election, saying he would only do so if the results were “free” and “fair”. He then reiterated false claims that he lost the 2020 race to Biden as a result of “fraud”.
- Protesters also gathered outside the debate venue in Atlanta, Georgia, to call attention to the US’s role in Israel’s war in Gaza and call on both candidates to push for a ceasefire.
- But even after Biden’s uneven performance, Democrats largely rallied around the former president, despite rumblings he should be replaced.
Voters underwhelmed by both candidates
Reporting from a debate watch party of voters from across the political spectrum in Kenosha, Wisconsin, Al Jazeera correspondent Heidi Zhou-Castro said that many were unimpressed with what they saw.
“There was so much cringing on both sides watching this debate unfold,” Zhou-Castro said. “There was cringing on the part of Democrats when Biden lost his train of thought. There was much laughter when Trump pushed back against debate moderators, with some people saying this reached the point of farce.”
A viewer who supported Trump in 2016 and Biden in 2020 said she was considering switching her support back to Trump after Biden struggled to give a clear picture about his plans for the country.
Members of the Young Republicans hold a presidential debate watch party on Thursday, June 27, in New York
Democratic officials rally behind Biden
Democratic lawmakers and officials have sought to send a message of unity after the debate, even while reports emerge that Biden’s performance was viewed with alarm by many within the party.
“You don’t turn your back because of one performance. What kind of party does that?” said California Governor Gavin Newsom when asked if Biden should step down. “This president has delivered. We need to deliver for him at this moment.”
In a social media post, Senator Elizabeth Warren said the choice between the two candidates “is clear”. Biden, she explained, would be a “champion for working people”, while Trump would cut taxes for the rich.
“Yes there was a slow start, but it was a strong finish,” Vice President Kamala Harris said in an interview on CNN.
A social media account for the party tweeted a photo of Biden with the caption, “The winner of tonight’s debate”.
Trump repeats falsehoods but Biden struggles with performance
While Donald Trump doubled down on false claims about everything from immigration to the 2020 election, Joe Biden’s performance could fuel concerns about his age and competency for office.
“Joe Biden called out Donald Trump on his lies, on his falsehoods, on his exaggerations, on things that simply are not true, but Donald Trump looked as if he was in command,” Al Jazeera correspondent Alan Fisher reported from outside of the debate venue in Atlanta, Georgia.
“Many of the things we’ve heard from Donald Trump, we can prove are false. He repeated a lot of the things he uses in his speeches during his rallies. But the simple fact is he looked in command. For Joe Biden, he simply didn’t finish thoughts. He looked confused at certain points, and this was a bad night for him.”
President Joe Biden speaks at a presidential debate watch party on June 27 in Atlanta.
Photos capture contentious debate
Photos from the night show a night full of acrimony, as Biden and Trump squared off in a reunion no less tense than their last debate in 2020.
Biden’s poor performance and Trump’s lies: four key takeaways from the debate
Calls for Biden to stand aside grow after shaky debate performance against Trump
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Biden’s raspy voice, tendency to meander and difficulty finishing his answers have his allies deeply worried about his ability to beat Trump
Shropshire said one strong moment for Biden was when he pointed out that Trump was a convicted felon and criticized his morality.
She also said that Trump’s reference to migrants taking Black jobs had become “a hilarious meme all across Black Twitter right now”:
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She said it showed how Trump was failing to connect with Black voters.
“That there are specific Black jobs for Black people that immigrants are coming to take. Utter nonsense.”Adrianne Shropshire, Executive director of Blackpac, an organization that works to mobilize black voters, told Reuters she wrote down two things in her notepad while watching the debate.
“One is that Trump lies,” she said. The other was that Biden “was not as forceful as I thought he needed to be.”
Shropshire criticised the moderators for allowing Trump to make various false claims without any pushback.
Trump was essentially allowed to do what he does at his rallies, which is say whatever he wants, regardless of the relationship it has to the truth. And that was really unfortunate.”
Shropshire said Biden could have pushed back on Trump’s false claims more forcefully.
“I think he tried to take the high road by talking policy. And I think that has its place. But when we think about where our politics are right now, there really is a need to just assert facts and assert them very clearly. And I think that got muddled a bit in his policy responses.”
Shropshire said she was not as worried as others who have said Biden had an unsteady performance that could increase about his age. “He has great performances that people have talked about just in the past few months,” she said.
“I also think that it just doesn’t change the dynamics of the race, because they also saw Trump standing next to Joe Biden, and I don’t think that they saw someone who was stronger necessarily. I think they saw the same unhinged Trump that they see at every rally and in clips when they’re on social media.”
Pelosi: 'How dare [Trump] place blame for January 6 on anyone but himself"
Former House speaker Nancy Pelosi, meanwhile, has taken aim at Trump’s claiming – falsely –during the debate that she was responsible for the January 6 insurrection.
“How dare he place the blame for January 6th on anyone but himself, the inciter of an insurrection?” she wrote on X:
Joe Biden’s age and acuity took center stage. He looked lost, and the Democrats are almost certainly panicking. At times, the president could barely stitch two coherent sentences together. Donald Trump won the evening, and it wasn’t even close.
Trump took command from the outset. He appeared energized and engaged. What Trump said mattered less than how he said it; he forcefully responded to whatever question was posed. He repeatedly mocked, taunted and bludgeoned Biden. If this were a boxing match, the referee would have stopped the match in the third round.
Despite Biden’s efforts to nail Trump on his own record as president, Trump was mostly unbowed. He seemingly stood by his picks to the supreme court and the end of Roe v Wade. At one point Trump seemingly mouthed the words “let’s not act like children”, which may be the evening’s most memorable line. He also got away with calling Biden “the Manchurian candidate”.
Trump lied aplenty. He acted as if he never had said there were “good people” on both sides in Charlottesville, and pretended that he hadn’t dissed America’s war dead. But little of that may matter come November. Americans want a president who exudes vigor. And Biden isn’t that.
The debate will supply Trump with a wealth of material for campaign ads. It may be time for an open convention. August could be interesting.
Well, that was a disaster.
The debate was an unmitigated calamity, especially for Biden. The president was often hard to follow and at times incoherent; he struggled to answer questions that should have been easy gimmes on issues favorable to Democrats. It would be nice if substance mattered more than style, because the substance of Biden’s remarks were important, and promised a more prosperous, secure and free future for Americans than Trump’s. But his delivery made it extremely difficult for even the most plugged-in politics addicts to follow, let alone your average viewer at home.
For Trump’s part, what he didn’t say was more telling than what he did. He was unwilling or unable to answer questions on how he would help families with childcare, the costs of which are a drag not only on family budgets, but on the US economy. He was unwilling or unable to answer questions about opioids and the US’s addiction crisis. And, perhaps most importantly, he refused to clearly answer a thrice-asked question about whether he would accept the results of the election – saying only that he would do so if such an election were fair, and then claimed the 2020 one wasn’t. In other words, Trump will accept the results of the election only if he wins – and contest it if he doesn’t.
That’s remarkably dangerous. And his wholesale lack of interest in the issues that matter most to American families is remarkably negligent. But unfortunately, his would-be foil – Biden – proved simply unable to take on even a truly terrible opponent. Neither man came off looking good. But if Americans are counting on Biden to save us, we might want to start making a Plan B.
Here is what Guardian columnist and author of How Does It Feel To Be a Problem?: Being Young and Arab in America and This Muslim American Life: Dispatches from the War on Terror, Moustafa Bayoumi thought of tonight’s debate:
What a catastrophe. From the moment the debate started, Joe Biden was meandering, confused and charmless. It never improved. Donald Trump, however, was relatively restrained, at least for Trump. Of course, he resorted to lies, insults and exaggerations throughout the 90 minutes. By citing things called “Black jobs” and “Hispanic jobs” and by calling Biden a “bad Palestinian”, Trump managed to hit all his usual racist notes.
Yet the whole thing was simply painful to watch, mostly because it was useless on any practical level. This much ballyhooed confrontation between two political foes for the most important office in the world turned out to be featherlight on substance, policy, interest, intellect, imagination, vision, energy, ideas, humor and hope. It was heavy on one thing (besides cringe), though: ego.
The presidency should not simply be a vanity project, but that’s exactly what it has become. Biden’s performance was so far below acceptable that the Democratic party should be ashamed of itself for allowing him to stand for re-election. With tonight’s performance as evidence, the Democrats will almost certainly lose. Trump’s narcissism is notorious, and it too has destroyed the Republican party from within. The stakes are much too high to allow the inflated egos of these two men to determine the fates of millions of people here and around the world. If the Democrats truly believe that democracy is on the line during this election, they must select someone other than Biden as their candidate. There’s still time.
The Guardian’s panellists have also delivered their verdicts. I’ll bring you those imminently. But to make what has been a fun evening even more fun – first, some clues: “catastrophe”, “disaster”, and lower than “dungeon-in-hell levels of low” are some of the words that appear in their analysis.
Prominent political analyst Amy Walter told Reuters the debate “only served to remind voters of Biden’s weaknesses, especially his health and stamina”.
She continued, “To be sure, Trump did not ‘win’ this debate as much as Biden lost it. Trump lobbed multiple falsehoods and lies. He failed to make a positive case for his second term, spending more time litigating Biden’s failures. But, Trump is leading in the polls and doesn’t need a ‘rest’ in the way Biden does.”
“I don’t think that this debate will sway undecided voters, especially those who say they dislike both candidates. If you came into this debate thinking both men were unsatisfactory choices, their debate performances did not disabuse you of this opinion.”The reactions from democrats and democratic voters continue to be excoriating.
Julian Castro, Housing and Urban Development secretary under Obama, said on X/Twitter:
“Tonight was completely predictable. Biden had a very low bar going into the debate and failed to clear even that bar…He seemed unprepared, lost, and not strong enough to parry effectively with Trump, who lies constantly.”
Julián Castro@JulianCastro·FollowReplying to @JulianCastroBiden had a very low bar going into the debate and failed to clear even that bar. He seemed unprepared, lost, and not strong enough to parry effectively with Trump, who lies constantly.
My expectations for this debate weren’t just low, they were dungeon-in-hell levels of low. I still wasn’t prepared for how shocking it would actually be. Trump lied unashamedly, Biden waffled incoherently, and the moderators just said “thank you” a lot and moved on. This was not a “debate” so much as a farce.
If Biden’s team thought this debate would assuage worries about the president’s age and competence, their plans spectacularly backfired. For the first half of the debate, Biden looked dazed and could barely get his words out. He noticeably improved towards the end; still, this was not a man who instills confidence. Trump blustered and lied and dog-whistled his way through the night, but if you were going on optics alone the convicted felon had the upper hand.
For those of us distraught by Gaza, tonight was a gut-wrenching reminder that neither candidate gives a damn about Palestinian lives. Trump used “Palestinian” as a slur and Biden, meanwhile, reiterated his support for Israel no matter how many Palestinian kids are killed. Neither candidate answered the question of whether they support a Palestinian state and the moderators didn’t press them on it.
Responses to questions about abortion were also bleak. Trump advanced inflammatory misinformation about late-term abortion and Biden didn’t seem interested in talking about abortion in detail – he didn’t even mention it in his closing statements. He seemed a lot more interested in talking about golf. Indeed, the only part of the night when both men seemed to really come alive was when they got into a fight about their golf handicaps.
Biden’s debate performance sends Democrats into panic
Could there be a contested Democratic convention? How would that even work? Replacing the president may not be an option, they said, but many acknowledged Democrats are talking about it, spurred by Biden’s troubling debate performance.
MSNBC’s Nicole Wallace laid out how a candidate could release their delegates. Joy Reid said someone sent her the rules.
“The rules are circulating,” Wallace laughed.
“No one is saying it’s going to happen, it’s very unlikely,” Reid reiterated.
The fact that a liberal network would broach the idea of whether an incumbent president running for re-election could be replaced after they’ve won the nomination shows how Democrats are scrambling after the debate to affirm Biden’s ability to lead the nation. Many are questioning whether the party should have serious conservations about what else could be done instead.
David Plouffe, a Democratic strategist and former Obama campaign official, called the debate “kind of a Defcon 1 moment”.
“The biggest thing in this election is voters’ concerns – and it’s both swing voters and base voters – with his age, and those were compounded tonight,” Plouffe said:
Fri 28 Jun 2024
Guardian columnist Osita Nwanevu writes: Half an hour into the worst presidential debate of all time, Jake Tapper finally put a question to the candidates about “the issue of democracy”. As president, Tapper said, Trump had sworn an oath to the constitution that many voters believe he violated by instigating the riot on January 6. What would he say to those voters?
“Well, I don’t think too many believe that,” Trump sniffed. “And let me tell you about January 6th. On January 6th, we had a great border. Nobody coming through. Very few. On January 6th, we were energy independent. On January 6th, we had the lowest taxes ever. We had the lowest regulations ever … We were respected all over the world.” He was asked again and babbled about Nancy Pelosi’s daughter instead.
This was Biden’s golden opportunity. Because as stubbornly pessimistic as Americans might be about the economy or Biden’s age, Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election illustrate that democracy itself is at stake. It’s a simple, clear and potent message. Biden failed to deliver it effectively. “He talked about these people being great patriots of America,” Biden rasped. “In fact, he says he’ll now forgive them for what they’ve done. He’ll … and they’ve been convicted. He says he wants to commute their sentences … and say that … that no, he went to every single court in the nation, I don’t know how many cases, scores of cases, including the supreme court. And they said, they said: ‘No, no, this guy, this guy is responsible for doing what is being that was done.’”
Unfortunately, it’s doubtful that Biden’s capacities will improve by November. Although he does sometimes have a command of facts and figures, Biden has lost his ability to communicate effectively – not something one wants in a political candidate or, for that matter, a president.
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Biden’s debate performance sends Democrats into panic
Could there be a contested Democratic convention? How would that even work? Replacing the president may not be an option, they said, but many acknowledged Democrats are talking about it, spurred by Biden’s troubling debate performance.
MSNBC’s Nicole Wallace laid out how a candidate could release their delegates. Joy Reid said someone sent her the rules.
“The rules are circulating,” Wallace laughed.
“No one is saying it’s going to happen, it’s very unlikely,” Reid reiterated.
The fact that a liberal network would broach the idea of whether an incumbent president running for re-election could be replaced after they’ve won the nomination shows how Democrats are scrambling after the debate to affirm Biden’s ability to lead the nation. Many are questioning whether the party should have serious conservations about what else could be done instead.
David Plouffe, a Democratic strategist and former Obama campaign official, called the debate “kind of a Defcon 1 moment”.
“The biggest thing in this election is voters’ concerns – and it’s both swing voters and base voters – with his age, and those were compounded tonight,” Plouffe said:
Shropshire said one strong moment for Biden was when he pointed out that Trump was a convicted felon and criticized his morality.
She also said that Trump’s reference to migrants taking Black jobs had become “a hilarious meme all across Black Twitter right now”:
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She said it showed how Trump was failing to connect with Black voters.
“That there are specific Black jobs for Black people that immigrants are coming to take. Utter nonsense.”
Adrianne Shropshire, Executive director of Blackpac, an organization that works to mobilize black voters, told Reuters she wrote down two things in her notepad while watching the debate.
“One is that Trump lies,” she said. The other was that Biden “was not as forceful as I thought he needed to be.”
Shropshire criticised the moderators for allowing Trump to make various false claims without any pushback.
Trump was essentially allowed to do what he does at his rallies, which is say whatever he wants, regardless of the relationship it has to the truth. And that was really unfortunate.”
Shropshire said Biden could have pushed back on Trump’s false claims more forcefully.
“I think he tried to take the high road by talking policy. And I think that has its place. But when we think about where our politics are right now, there really is a need to just assert facts and assert them very clearly. And I think that got muddled a bit in his policy responses.”
Shropshire said she was not as worried as others who have said Biden had an unsteady performance that could increase about his age. “He has great performances that people have talked about just in the past few months,” she said.
“I also think that it just doesn’t change the dynamics of the race, because they also saw Trump standing next to Joe Biden, and I don’t think that they saw someone who was stronger necessarily. I think they saw the same unhinged Trump that they see at every rally and in clips when they’re on social media.”
My expectations for this debate weren’t just low, they were dungeon-in-hell levels of low. I still wasn’t prepared for how shocking it would actually be. Trump lied unashamedly, Biden waffled incoherently, and the moderators just said “thank you” a lot and moved on. This was not a “debate” so much as a farce.
If Biden’s team thought this debate would assuage worries about the president’s age and competence, their plans spectacularly backfired. For the first half of the debate, Biden looked dazed and could barely get his words out. He noticeably improved towards the end; still, this was not a man who instills confidence. Trump blustered and lied and dog-whistled his way through the night, but if you were going on optics alone the convicted felon had the upper hand.
For those of us distraught by Gaza, tonight was a gut-wrenching reminder that neither candidate gives a damn about Palestinian lives. Trump used “Palestinian” as a slur and Biden, meanwhile, reiterated his support for Israel no matter how many Palestinian kids are killed. Neither candidate answered the question of whether they support a Palestinian state and the moderators didn’t press them on it.
Responses to questions about abortion were also bleak. Trump advanced inflammatory misinformation about late-term abortion and Biden didn’t seem interested in talking about abortion in detail – he didn’t even mention it in his closing statements. He seemed a lot more interested in talking about golf. Indeed, the only part of the night when both men seemed to really come alive was when they got into a fight about their golf handicaps.
Pelosi: 'How dare [Trump] place blame for January 6 on anyone but himself"
Former House speaker Nancy Pelosi, meanwhile, has taken aim at Trump’s claiming – falsely –during the debate that she was responsible for the January 6 insurrection.
“How dare he place the blame for January 6th on anyone but himself, the inciter of an insurrection?” she wrote on X:
I tore up the former president’s State of the Union address because it was a manifesto of lies. Tonight he presented another pack of lies which along, with his candidacy, must be rejected. How dare he place the blame for January 6th on anyone but himself, the inciter of an…
— Nancy Pelosi (@TeamPelosi) June 28, 2024
Joe Biden’s age and acuity took center stage. He looked lost, and the Democrats are almost certainly panicking. At times, the president could barely stitch two coherent sentences together. Donald Trump won the evening, and it wasn’t even close.
Trump took command from the outset. He appeared energized and engaged. What Trump said mattered less than how he said it; he forcefully responded to whatever question was posed. He repeatedly mocked, taunted and bludgeoned Biden. If this were a boxing match, the referee would have stopped the match in the third round.
Despite Biden’s efforts to nail Trump on his own record as president, Trump was mostly unbowed. He seemingly stood by his picks to the supreme court and the end of Roe v Wade. At one point Trump seemingly mouthed the words “let’s not act like children”, which may be the evening’s most memorable line. He also got away with calling Biden “the Manchurian candidate”.
Trump lied aplenty. He acted as if he never had said there were “good people” on both sides in Charlottesville, and pretended that he hadn’t dissed America’s war dead. But little of that may matter come November. Americans want a president who exudes vigor. And Biden isn’t that.
The debate will supply Trump with a wealth of material for campaign ads. It may be time for an open convention. August could be interesting.
Well, that was a disaster.
The debate was an unmitigated calamity, especially for Biden. The president was often hard to follow and at times incoherent; he struggled to answer questions that should have been easy gimmes on issues favorable to Democrats. It would be nice if substance mattered more than style, because the substance of Biden’s remarks were important, and promised a more prosperous, secure and free future for Americans than Trump’s. But his delivery made it extremely difficult for even the most plugged-in politics addicts to follow, let alone your average viewer at home.
For Trump’s part, what he didn’t say was more telling than what he did. He was unwilling or unable to answer questions on how he would help families with childcare, the costs of which are a drag not only on family budgets, but on the US economy. He was unwilling or unable to answer questions about opioids and the US’s addiction crisis. And, perhaps most importantly, he refused to clearly answer a thrice-asked question about whether he would accept the results of the election – saying only that he would do so if such an election were fair, and then claimed the 2020 one wasn’t. In other words, Trump will accept the results of the election only if he wins – and contest it if he doesn’t.
That’s remarkably dangerous. And his wholesale lack of interest in the issues that matter most to American families is remarkably negligent. But unfortunately, his would-be foil – Biden – proved simply unable to take on even a truly terrible opponent. Neither man came off looking good. But if Americans are counting on Biden to save us, we might want to start making a Plan B.
Here is what Guardian columnist and author of How Does It Feel To Be a Problem?: Being Young and Arab in America and This Muslim American Life: Dispatches from the War on Terror, Moustafa Bayoumi thought of tonight’s debate:
What a catastrophe. From the moment the debate started, Joe Biden was meandering, confused and charmless. It never improved. Donald Trump, however, was relatively restrained, at least for Trump. Of course, he resorted to lies, insults and exaggerations throughout the 90 minutes. By citing things called “Black jobs” and “Hispanic jobs” and by calling Biden a “bad Palestinian”, Trump managed to hit all his usual racist notes.
Yet the whole thing was simply painful to watch, mostly because it was useless on any practical level. This much ballyhooed confrontation between two political foes for the most important office in the world turned out to be featherlight on substance, policy, interest, intellect, imagination, vision, energy, ideas, humor and hope. It was heavy on one thing (besides cringe), though: ego.
The presidency should not simply be a vanity project, but that’s exactly what it has become. Biden’s performance was so far below acceptable that the Democratic party should be ashamed of itself for allowing him to stand for re-election. With tonight’s performance as evidence, the Democrats will almost certainly lose. Trump’s narcissism is notorious, and it too has destroyed the Republican party from within. The stakes are much too high to allow the inflated egos of these two men to determine the fates of millions of people here and around the world. If the Democrats truly believe that democracy is on the line during this election, they must select someone other than Biden as their candidate. There’s still time.
The Guardian’s panellists have also delivered their verdicts. I’ll bring you those imminently. But to make what has been a fun evening even more fun – first, some clues: “catastrophe”, “disaster”, and lower than “dungeon-in-hell levels of low” are some of the words that appear in their analysis.
Prominent political analyst Amy Walter told Reuters the debate “only served to remind voters of Biden’s weaknesses, especially his health and stamina”.
She continued, “To be sure, Trump did not ‘win’ this debate as much as Biden lost it. Trump lobbed multiple falsehoods and lies. He failed to make a positive case for his second term, spending more time litigating Biden’s failures. But, Trump is leading in the polls and doesn’t need a ‘rest’ in the way Biden does.”
“I don’t think that this debate will sway undecided voters, especially those who say they dislike both candidates. If you came into this debate thinking both men were unsatisfactory choices, their debate performances did not disabuse you of this opinion.”
The reactions from democrats and democratic voters continue to be excoriating.
Julian Castro, Housing and Urban Development secretary under Obama, said on X/Twitter:
“Tonight was completely predictable. Biden had a very low bar going into the debate and failed to clear even that bar…He seemed unprepared, lost, and not strong enough to parry effectively with Trump, who lies constantly.”
Biden had a very low bar going into the debate and failed to clear even that bar. He seemed unprepared, lost, and not strong enough to parry effectively with Trump, who lies constantly.
— Julián Castro (@JulianCastro) June 28, 2024
President mumbled as ex-president avoided questions in a debate showcasing voters’ two main options in November
The reality of the 2024 presidential contest is setting in now that the first debate of the election cycle showcased the two main options voters have in November.
Joe Biden, apparently sick with a cold, mumbled through the debate, failing to land otherwise well-crafted lines. Donald Trump, a prolific purveyor of falsehoods, repeatedly told lies and avoided answering tough questions.
The prevailing reaction to the debate was one of resignation and disbelief that these two candidates were their parties’ choices to lead the country at one of its most critical moments.
Whether the debacle will sway undecided voters toward one candidate or the other remains to be seen.
Biden performs poorly
The president joked about the rightwing conspiracies that he would take some kind of performance-enhancing drugs before the debate, posting a link to a can of water for sale on his campaign website called “Dark Brandon’s Secret Sauce”.
But his low-energy, muted and garbled performance didn’t live up to expectations. And keep in mind: Biden challenged the former president to the debate, which looks like a strategic error in retrospect.
Voters regularly say they are concerned about Biden’s age and fitness for office. This debate will not assuage their fears.
If someone were reading a transcript of Biden’s remarks, some of his lines would sound smart and aggressive. But the delivery failed – and for a visual medium like TV, that’s critical. He failed to sell his signature accomplishments, like his infrastructure plan.
From the start, Biden’s voice was muffled. He trailed off. In one gaffe, attacking Trump on his tax cuts and the national debt, he confusingly ended his remarks with: “We finally beat Medicare.”
Trump jumped on the moment: “He did beat Medicare. He beat it to death, and he’s destroying Medicare.”
On an abortion question, which should be one of Biden’s strongest assets for voters concerned about rolling back reproductive rights, Biden brought up girls killed by migrants – pivoting, for some reason, to one of his weakest areas.
He became more lively over the course of the evening, but not enough to change the narrative of how the debate went down optically. The evening will undoubtedly lead Democrats to debate whether Biden should somehow be replaced at the convention.
Trump lies endlessly
As expected for a politician so consistently factchecked, Trump repeatedly tried to sell falsehoods and half-truths to voters.
When questions were posed that would require tough answers, like one about the January 6 insurrection, he deflected and talked about something he could attack Biden on.
CNN’s moderators did not factcheck statements live. At times, when he avoided the question, they would reiterate it – sometimes successfully getting Trump to answer.
He falsely claimed Democrats want abortions up until and after birth. He said without evidence that Nancy Pelosi refused his offer for national guard troops on 6 January 2021 to respond to an insurrection he encouraged. He said his administration had the “best environmental numbers”, whatever that means.
And his promise that retribution would mark a second term in office surfaced too, in what seemed to be a veiled threat of prosecution: “He could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets out of office. Joe could be a convicted felon with all of the things that he’s done. He’s done horrible things.”
Different visions were starkly on display
The two men showed the distinctions of the two Americas in which they live.
Trump repeatedly talked about how the US had failed, how Biden was the worst president in the country’s history and how the world views the country dismally now.
“Joe, our country is being destroyed. As you and I sit up here and waste a lot of time on this debate. This shouldn’t be a debate. He is the worst president, he just said about me because I said it. But look, he’s the worst president in the history of our country. He’s destroyed our country.”
Biden disagreed, offering an optimistic view of the US on the world stage.
“We’re the most admired country in the world. We’re the United States of America. There’s nothing beyond our capacity. We have the finest military in the history of the world, the finest in the history of the world. No one thinks we’re weak. No one wants to screw around with us, nobody.”
The adult film actor moment
Trump’s convictions and varied court cases didn’t come up in the debate until it was well underway, a missed opportunity from Biden to hammer on one of Trump’s key liabilities.
When the issue finally surfaced, Biden hit at Trump for having sex with an adult film actor while his wife was pregnant, referring to Stormy Daniels and the hush-money trial that concluded in 34 felonies for Trump.
“You have the morals of an alley cat,” Biden quipped at Trump.
Trump responded with a line that surely has not been uttered at presidential debates in decades past: “I didn’t have sex with a porn star.”
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